Stop Hustling, Start Leading: A New Standard for Women Entrepreneurs

Stop Hustling, Start Leading: A New Standard for Women Entrepreneurs

What if I told you that the hustle—the constant go-go-go that so many women wear like a badge of honor—isn’t actually getting us where we want to go?

This week on The Amanda Kaufman Show, I had the honor of sitting down with someone who knows the weight of hustle intimately—and has completely transformed her life and business by walking away from it. Dr. Kelly Schuh is a former chiropractor turned high-impact business coach for visionary women. She shared her powerful story of going from deep in debt and burnout to building a wildly aligned, abundant business—and more importantly, a new identity rooted in self-worth.

Let me tell you, this one hit deep.

From Burnout to Breakthrough

Dr. Kelly’s story begins where so many of ours do: doing all the right things. She had the degrees, the brick-and-mortar business, the success by external standards. But when a health crisis left her bedridden during her pregnancy, she had to face a reality so many high-performing women avoid—her body was shutting down because the life she had built was no longer sustainable.

That moment became a turning point. She stepped into the online space in 2010 (which, let’s be honest, was the Wild West of online coaching) and started to rebuild from a completely new lens: impact over effort, alignment over hustle. But of course, the shift wasn’t immediate.

She still checked all the boxes: launched programs, grew a huge online community, wrote the book. But the bank account didn’t reflect any of it. At one point, she was $130,000 in debt—with a five-year-old and no steady income.

And then came the moment. Her coach dared her to double her rates. She felt physically sick even considering it—but she did it anyway. And that year, she tripled her revenue.

Let that sink in.

She didn’t get new credentials. She didn’t magically acquire 10,000 new followers. She changed her identity.

The Worthiness Wound

One of the most powerful concepts Dr. Kelly brought to the conversation was the “worthiness wound.” And as soon as she said it, I knew every woman listening felt it land in their gut.

Every single woman Dr. Kelly has ever worked with has struggled with this wound in some form. And I’ll raise my hand right now—me too.

It shows up in sneaky ways:

• Undervaluing your work and undercharging.
  

• Delaying your goals until you feel more “prepared” or “deserving.”
  

• Staying in toxic relationships because “at least it’s something.”
  

• Refusing to rest because you feel guilty if you're not producing.
  
  

Sound familiar?

Dr. Kelly reminded us that our worth is not earned. It’s not about what we produce, how busy we are, or how self-sacrificing we can be. It’s innate.

And when we don’t believe that, we hustle. We hustle to prove, to earn, to feel “enough.”

Why ‘Stop’ Is the Hardest Word

One moment from the episode gave me chills: Dr. Kelly said,

“The last thing that someone wants to hear when they’re used to hustling is ‘stop.’ And yet, there’s a wisdom in there that knows if something’s going to change, they have to pause. They have to quiet the nervous system... so they can actually hear that inner voice that’s been screaming.”

Whew.

We’ve all been there. The to-do list is overflowing, the calendar is packed, the inbox is a mile long—and someone says, “You need to slow down.”

It almost feels offensive.

But it’s the truth. Growth doesn’t come from noise. Vision doesn’t arise in chaos. Abundance isn’t something you chase. It’s something you receive—when you're in alignment.

The Identity Shift

We spent a good portion of the conversation talking about identity, because this isn’t just mindset fluff—it’s the foundation.

You can’t build a high-impact, high-income, soul-aligned business if your identity is rooted in self-doubt, scarcity, and over-functioning. You’ll burn it all down—or never build it at all.

Dr. Kelly used to align people’s spines. Now, she aligns women with their worth. She helps them shift into a version of themselves that leads with presence, not proving.

That’s the new standard.

And here’s the wild part—it’s not about doing more. It’s about letting go.

• Letting go of hustle.
  

• Letting go of old conditioning.
  

• Letting go of the pressure to be everything to everyone.
  

What’s left is a woman who leads from within.

Let’s Talk About Impact

A recurring theme that came up in our chat was impact. And not just the kind that gets likes and followers. I’m talking about real, legacy-shaping impact.

Dr. Kelly shared a deeply personal story about launching a cause to build a school in Africa—a vision that came through a serendipitous conversation under a tree, inspired by her late friend’s father’s dying wish. It was a vibe-following moment, she said. A full-body yes.

And that’s what true wealth and leadership give you: the freedom to say yes to the impact that moves you.

It’s not about accumulating. It’s about circulating.

When you’re in alignment, you can give freely. You can create deeply. You can make decisions that shape lives—not just your own, but the lives of people you may never meet.

That’s the ripple effect. That’s real power.

Final Thoughts

This conversation left me deeply inspired—and also reflective.

So many of us are holding onto a model of success that requires us to self-abandon. To grind. To ignore our bodies, our families, our inner voice.

But a new standard is here. And it starts with one word: stop.

Stop hustling. Start listening.
Start leading.

You are enough.
You don’t need to prove it.
You just need to remember.

Until next time, do what matters. 💛

Chapters List

00:00 The Importance of Authenticity and Impact

03:07 Dr. Kelly's Entrepreneurial Journey and Wealth Crisis

05:50 Embodied Leadership and the Shift in Identity

08:25 Navigating Life Transitions and the Wisdom of Slowing Down

11:06 Collaboration and Collective Impact

13:51 Empowering Women Through Education in Africa

16:22 Overcoming Worthiness Wounds

19:09 Setting Standards and Vibrational Match in Business

21:40 Finding Alignment and Human Design

24:30 Closing Thoughts and Call to Action

Full Transcript

Dr. Kelly Schuh (00:00)

the last thing that someone wants to hear when they're so used to hustling and you say stop. And they're like, I can't, I got this and I got this and I got this. And yet there's a wisdom in there that knows if something's going to change, they have to stop.

Amanda Kaufman (00:32)

Well, hello and welcome back to the Amanda Kaufman show. And I am just delighted to introduce you to Dr. Kelly Schuh Now, before we got on the air and everything, I was asking her what's really important and she's going to tell you, but I want to tell you something that if you're building a business, if you're taking on all of this energy in your life to do something great, like let's take a moment to really think about your why and let's really think about

why that is so important that you show up fully and authentically. Most people that I talk to, they say, I wanna do this for impact. And I'm so excited to have Dr. Kelly Schuh here today. She happens to be an expert on profit mastery and on being able to be attractive in your wealth. Dr. Kelly, welcome to the show. I'm so glad that you're here.

Dr. Kelly Schuh (01:24)

am so glad to be here too. So thank you so much for having me. love starting it off with impact, right? Like, let's do it.

Amanda Kaufman (01:31)

That's it.

Let's do it. Let's do it. Because I love talking about income. I love talking about wealth. But it's really because it's a tool. You know, it is something that we can use to do good in the world, to have a really meaningful impact. And I'm just so curious, what got you into this particular set of expertise as an entrepreneur?

Dr. Kelly Schuh (01:53)

So we could go way back. And I would say my journey as an entrepreneur really began as a chiropractor. So when you hear Dr. Kelly Schuh, you're hearing it through the lens of that was my first bricks and mortar business. And so I did that for many years. I got pregnant with my first daughter. And I was really sick. I was bedridden. And so that was my great awakening. And the word impact and income came in really clearly when you're sick and bedridden.

Amanda Kaufman (02:12)

Huh.

Dr. Kelly Schuh (02:19)

I really started to question the manner in which I was doing business. And what I mean by that is I didn't get income if I didn't get my hands on my patients. So there's this thing even back then called the internet. so it was during that time that I really pivoted. I never went back to chiropractic full time. I went into coaching and online business. So that was back in 2010.

And so what got me into it, I guess, the beginning of it was a health crisis and really wanting to leverage and having more income, reaching more people. But the biggest thing, like you started this off with more impact. So that's kind of like how I went into the digital space.

Amanda Kaufman (02:48)

Hmm.

Mm-hmm.

I love that. I think having worked with so many coaches over the years, most, if not all, have a crisis story. Kind of that moment that they had to face the reality of the path that they were on. And if you've studied the hero's journey, it's the calling. It's that moment when it becomes really, important.

Thank you so much for sharing that because I think a lot of people would face that hardship and not necessarily derive meaning from it in the same way to turn around and do something great. So you decide to become a coach, you do it in 2010, which is pretty early days for a lot of online coaches. Yeah, it is. Yeah. So what was that like? How would you say things are different now?

Dr. Kelly Schuh (03:37)

It was early days. I know.

my gosh. So I told you about my health crisis. Let's talk about my wealth crisis. So my wealth crisis really is like, how did you step into embodied feminine leadership and prosperity and presence? Cause that's what I now do working with that high achieving coach, consultant, C-suite women, C-suite woman, visionary. Most of us are trained as coaches to just hustle, right? Because that's what the conditioning field was. So let me tell you, so my

Amanda Kaufman (03:49)

Let's do it.

Dr. Kelly Schuh (04:12)

my wealth crisis. I was five years in as a coach and I had done all the things. I had hired the coaches. I wrote the book, which was an Amazon bestseller. I created a community of over 14,000 women, which was big back then. And I had the course. Okay. All right. So, so yeah. So it's like I being the recovering perfectionist that I am, I had checked all the boxes and I was broke and not broken.

Amanda Kaufman (04:27)

That's big now, just for the record, that's still big.

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Kelly Schuh (04:40)

And I was ready to quick to go back to chiropractic, a profession that I loved. And my coach really, I was $130,000 in debt. Let's get real. I was $130,000 in debt. At that point, a five-year-old. So we had gone from a two-income family to a single-income family, because I was going to be a coach, even though wasn't making any money. And so was that wake-up call of like, something has to shift. And it was a sombering moment.

And it was a moment that changed my life and my coach said why don't you double your rates and I felt nauseous and I thought she was absolutely crazy and it was a pivotal moment because She she could sense that that pulling back like okay. I wonder if she's gonna do it and she said you know what? What's the worst that can happen? And I said no client will sign up and I'm back to where I am right now, which is

desperate and I'm gonna have to quit." And she said, all right, well, I dare you. And then Amanda, don't dare me. I dare you to dare me. Cause watch out, like I am, I love a good dare. And that in that dare, I doubled my business or I'm sorry, I doubled my rates. I tripled my business. So I went from a 50K year coaching business to 150K. And it was more about the journey, who I became as a leader. And I started taking,

things seriously. really looked at what is my money blueprint? Who is the CEO that makes multiple six figures up to seven figures? So I had to create a new identity. And so that really was a pivotal moment in my life. And I live that now through that lens of presence and vibration and identity.

Amanda Kaufman (06:13)

I love it.

So good, that's so good. I went through a really similar experience actually of significant increase in the rates and I'm looking left and I'm looking right at all these examples of people not doing that. And I was really scared, I was really nervous the same way. And I'm curious if you had this similar experience where when you step into, no, I am going to command that level of a price, there's like this.

Dr. Kelly Schuh (06:24)

Yeah?

Amanda Kaufman (06:45)

embodiment, this leadership that goes with it, where it's like, well, I guess that I'm going to have these standards now. I guess I'm going to show up in this way. I guess I'm not going to waste my time in that way. Right. Like, did you find the same kind of activation when you made the decision you were going to be a higher performer?

Dr. Kelly Schuh (06:56)

Yeah.

It was, it was, I love the word activation that you just used because it was an activation of a new embodiment. And it was very uncomfortable when we grow in those kinds of ways, it's triggering and it's what's needed. I love the book 10 X is easier than two X. And for those listeners that don't know that book, you need to know that book. And we've created this like 10 X collective of female entrepreneurs and visionaries and leaders that they're used to the hustle mentality.

Amanda Kaufman (07:13)

Mm-hmm.

You need to know that book. ⁓

Dr. Kelly Schuh (07:28)

which is go, go, go, grow, grow, grow, and there's no time for slow, slow, slow. And that's really where the magic happens. That's where the 10X. So going back to identity, Dan Sullivan teaches us, you've got to let go of 80 % of who you've been. If you're gonna 10X your life, it's not about working harder, it's about frequency. It's about what I now call the grace code or the wealth frequency.

And it's an embodiment. can't fake it and you actually have to get out of your mind and into your body, into your bones. And this is where I use human design to really be able to look at someone's blueprint for success and get them back into alignment. So I used to align people's spines and now I align women and visionaries with their worth. There's a lot of self-worth that gets challenged when you're rising in your frequency of wealth. And so yeah, now I align them with their worth.

So they create this quantum leap and wealth, magic, magic lives there in that place. So yeah, a lot of identity.

Amanda Kaufman (08:25)

of that. You know,

I totally agree with you that it's very possible to work hard and have hardly anything to show for it, you know, because that identity of being that hard worker, it is so sexy, like to be needed, to be busy, you know, and it is really rewarded in our society. So, but what came up for me as you were saying that, was like, you know, it is actually hard to decide to do things differently than other people.

Dr. Kelly Schuh (08:42)

Yes! Yes!

Amanda Kaufman (08:55)

It's hard to do that inner work and it's hard to like slow down if you're so accustomed to the speed and that instant dopamine hit of the immediate social reward of being the it girl or whatever it is that's been driving you. It is actually hard to slow down. That's been my experience anyway.

Dr. Kelly Schuh (08:56)

Ugh.

Absolutely.

It is and

absolutely and I specialize in high achieving women. So they've had a really great level of success and they're exhausted and they're going, okay, what's next? And they're often in that Gen X time period of their Gen Xers. A Gen Xers is a woman who's born between 1965 and 1980. So reaching that point in our lives of like, okay, what is the next mountain?

Amanda Kaufman (09:26)

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Kelly Schuh (09:42)

Because I don't want to work the way I've been working. Like it's got to look different. So it's like the last thing that someone wants to hear when they're so used to hustling and you say stop. And they're like, I can't, I got this and I got this and I got this. And yet there's a wisdom in there that knows if something's going to change, they have to stop.

They have to pause and quiet the mind, quiet the nervous system so that they can actually hear.

Amanda Kaufman (10:03)

Yeah.

Dr. Kelly Schuh (10:10)

They can hear that inner voice that's been screaming at them and they've not been listening.

Amanda Kaufman (10:15)

I mean, like the things that made us successful when we were 20, when we didn't know anything and we didn't have the skill set, we didn't have the network, we didn't have, like you said, the wisdom. You know, it's that classic, what got you here won't necessarily get you there. And I think that Gen X, I am technically a millennial married to an older man who is very Gen X-y. So I live in kind of that place, right? Where it's like your kids are getting to that certain age where they're

Dr. Kelly Schuh (10:20)

Yeah.

Very Gen X-y. I love it.

Amanda Kaufman (10:41)

getting self-sustaining, you're starting to think about like, they're empty nesting. You've got the parents that are aging and you've got to take care of them as well. So I think that there's for sure that exhaustion you're talking about of trying to act like the 20 year old when you're not, right? You're very much not. But also like your body's changing, your hormones are changing, the needs from your family and around you are changing. And like,

Dr. Kelly Schuh (10:58)

Right? Yeah, your body's changing.

Amanda Kaufman (11:06)

I do think that that is a stage of life where, you know, whether we're talking 2025 or even 50 years ago, it is a very pivotal stage of life that it matters a lot to the quality of the rest of your life. What kinds of decisions you're making now. I love this.

Dr. Kelly Schuh (11:16)

It is.

Absolutely. And the one thing that I am a stand for in feminine leadership, embodied feminine leader, especially in today's times, things are happening so fast and we can't keep up. So let's just be real. We can't keep up. So stop trying. It's actually better to just stop. Yeah, really not supposed to.

Amanda Kaufman (11:40)

Well, not individually. You're not supposed to.

Dr. Kelly Schuh (11:46)

And you and I are both in the Dames. And one of the things that I love about the Dames is one word, collaboration. And I think it is a huge part of the embodiment of feminine leadership. So wherever you are, if you want to go to another level, lean in, lean in and create connections, real connections with other women.

Amanda Kaufman (11:54)

Hmm.

Dr. Kelly Schuh (12:09)

that have similar kinds of goals. It makes such a difference. And again, this is like the anti-hustle approach, right? Like lean in. it is.

Amanda Kaufman (12:14)

Absolutely.

And it's a part of impact, right? Like I think about the

manifestation of this very podcast. What happened? We were both just contributing in that incubator. You know, we were on a Zoom call. I mentioned in passing like, hey, I host this podcast. I'm trying to reach more entrepreneurs, more people. And you were like, how about me? And it was just like, it was easy to have. And so I get to have impact on your business. You get to have impact on my business. We get to have impact on each other on like...

a soul level and maybe there might be even some business that comes out of this. We don't know, but I do know that if neither of us were showed up to that day and heard and listened to each other and spoke up the way that we did, this content would never have happened and any ripple from those moments. like, what is impact but that ripple, right?

Dr. Kelly Schuh (13:07)

I just got full body chills when you shared that. And I remember that moment. And we have so many moments in our lives that are grace-filled. Like just to pause, what you just shared is the metaphor of the medicine that I'm sharing. This idea of follow the vibe, follow the flow, connect with other people that want to be in your presence. And

It's, you're not working harder. Like you and I connecting, it was divine. It was divine. And so I really think there's, there is a new and a different way to do business. think women naturally know that we don't need to compete with one another, that we can actually help one another. It's in our hearts. And so why not? Why not rise together and have greater impact? So I love how we're getting the impact theme. Yeah.

Amanda Kaufman (13:38)

Mm-hmm.

I completely agree.

Well, and I wanted to ask you because you mentioned to me before we started recording that you've got this project that you're really, really excited about that you're directing all this energy towards. Do you want just taking 30 seconds and sharing with us, like, what is it that you're working on and why is that a really important thing for you right now in this season?

Dr. Kelly Schuh (14:17)

Yeah, I feel like it was a divine initiation. And the last piece came in at 11 11 on 11 11. And for those who know numerology, one is all about new beginnings. And to make a longer story short, within a 48 hour period, I connected with a friend of mine who said that her father's dying wish was to build a school in Africa. And he passed last year. And so I said, I got full body chills and said, I want to be a part of this. We're sitting under a tree after a long hike.

Amanda Kaufman (14:41)

Hmm.

Dr. Kelly Schuh (14:46)

And I said, how about we bring a group of female thought leaders and entrepreneurs, let's climb for the cause. And this idea of women moving mountains. And so this is what we're doing. We are building this, her father's dream. He had already built a nonprofit in Africa, baking bread for the community and the children are fed. Every week they make like 400 loaves of bread. And so we are taking this spark.

of what he desired and also what the people wanted. I think it's really important to know the headmaster had been co-dreaming this dream with him and we're making this dream a reality. And so literally we are building this school and we're encouraging girls to go and in their country girls are not empowered to be educated. They are often married off and not educated and they're really going to that older like, just go, you're here to make babies.

Amanda Kaufman (15:30)

Mm-hmm.

Dr. Kelly Schuh (15:38)

Right? So anyway, I love that we're empowering girls. And yeah, so that's how Killy with Dr. Kelly was born. Was born from a full body chilled connection with a dear friend of mine.

Amanda Kaufman (15:49)

of that. And you've been working with people as a coach for goodness, I was just doing the math, like it's been over 15 years that you've been doing this. These kinds of goals, you know, as you were speaking, I was like, man, you know, we all have something that gives us full body chills, you know, causes that we really, really care about. Things that we want to see different in the world, ripple we really want to have. I'm just so curious, like when you are working with somebody

How often do you think people allow themselves to really go there with saying, I wanna do this, I wanna have this kind of impact? And how tough is it, do you think, for them to say, I'm good, I'm safe, I'm gonna go after the big, bold thing, and I'm gonna be able to finance it?

Dr. Kelly Schuh (16:25)

you

So the question was, go back to the question about the dream of permission. Yeah.

Amanda Kaufman (16:38)

When in your experience working with people,

yeah, in your experience in working with people, like how often do you think people are really tuned in to the kind of impact that they want to have? And I was just also really curious about like, they cut themselves? I was gonna say sell themselves short, but I mean, cut themselves short of like, I don't think I can raise the money for that. I don't think I can enroll the support in that. Like that's a pipe dream. So.

Dr. Kelly Schuh (16:56)

Yeah, they do.

Amanda Kaufman (17:03)

You know, I am really kind of curious on both sides of just awareness of the kind of impact people can have, but also like, do you see as a coach working with people who obviously care about change, do you see any kind of limitation that people impose on themselves with that?

Dr. Kelly Schuh (17:19)

I see limitation all the time and a lot of the body of work that I've developed has been around women owning their worth and their value. And so it can show up in many different ways. And one of the ways it shows up is feeling worthy of living your dream. And they often will kind of try to just stuff it and get the work done first. Like get the career going and then you can go live your dream. But there's this idea of like, I'm not enough.

or I'm not worthy enough. And so I feel like a lot of women, I think every woman that comes to me, actually, I'm just gonna say it for all these, every single woman that has ever worked with me has a worthiness wound. Boom, truth, truth bomb. And so that wound.

Amanda Kaufman (18:01)

Can you unpack that actually

for us? Like when you say that, what exactly is a worthiness wound and just like even the word worth can sometimes have different meanings. Like what do you really mean by that?

Dr. Kelly Schuh (18:04)

Yeah. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

What I mean by that is a woman who knows that she's enough. She doesn't have to prove anymore. Her presence is enough. It's not about doing, it's about being. It can show up in money and how they undervalue themselves. So it can show up in, I don't have time to work out. You don't have time not to work out. It can show up in an abusive relationship, right? Like why are they still with a toxic partner?

when they know it's toxic, no, you are worthy of being treated like a queen. It can show up one of my clients who is a multi-multi-millionaire, and I said she lives here locally, and I found out she loves to hike and hike locally. And she's so over-scheduled, she said, I don't remember the last time I could just take my dog for a hike.

So there's like a worthiness piece of like the having the spaciousness and having the white space. So those are all the ways that it can show up. And I am here to be a messenger of you're enough and it's not through your doing and it's not through your proving. Just be here now. You are enough for your dreams. You're enough for the love of your life, the money that you know you deserve, all the things. And how do we discover that is just stop and get into the frequency of abundance.

Amanda Kaufman (19:35)

You know what came up for me as you were answering that is the idea and the ideals of standards. Like what kind of standard are you holding for yourself in your romantic partnerships or in your marriage? What standard do you hold for your children and how they treat you?

what standard for your fitness, for your health, your nutrition. The word standard just kind of came up for me over and over again as you were describing this, that one way that we express our self-worth and worthiness is to also admit that the standards that we want to hold ourselves to are worth holding. It's worth holding that line. And I think...

Dr. Kelly Schuh (19:54)

gosh, it's so true.

Amanda Kaufman (20:19)

One of the the things that I've noticed really comes up in conversations with hype I work with both men and women and what comes up in a lot of high performance is this almost like I'm I Was gonna say like a heroism or a sacrifice It's like misplaced sacrifice sometimes where it's like well, if not me then who and I'm the only one

and only I can do this. And it's like, well, that's not, that's not actually true. You know, like you can have a greater impact on people if you allowed that standard, you know, and that leadership to come through and not just feel like you're always the one left holding the bag, you know.

Dr. Kelly Schuh (21:02)

That's a worthiness thing. It really, really is feeling worthy of being supported. How many people do you know that are coaches? I know you specifically working with coaches wait way too long for their first hire to get support. And yet it's such a stuck. They wait on everything. Yeah.

Amanda Kaufman (21:04)

Mm-hmm.

my God, they weighed on everything. They weighed on everything. Yeah, they weighed on everything.

And very specifically, actually one of the best things I did in my business recently is I launched a lower ticket program called The First Five Club. And even that, I hear sometimes from members, I'm not getting the most maximum value. And I'm like, seriously, this is like your cup of coffee a week.

is what I'm charging. It's really not expensive. And you're beating yourself up over that level. And at the same time, you're trying to call in or you say you want to call in 10, 20, $50,000 a month. It's like, well, you got to let go of the 50. You got to let go of that person. You know.

Dr. Kelly Schuh (21:47)

Wow. Yeah.

⁓ Amanda, you're so spot on. And I talk about like

a vibrational match when women come to me and they're wanting to, say, launch high ticket. And so we're realigning. I look at their human design chart. I look at how they are designed to succeed and we get them back into alignment. And one of the things that we have to do is we've got to look at the relationship with money. What is that relationship in that story around money?

And if they have never worked with a coach that they paid high ticket vibrationally, how are they then going to pitch high ticket if they've never been on the receiving end of that level of support? It's a vibrational mismatch. so like what you're saying, Amanda, how can they be complaining if you're going to help them to rise, especially at that low ticket? It's like everything is a mirror vibrationally. And so,

Amanda Kaufman (22:59)

Hmm.

Dr. Kelly Schuh (23:00)

Yeah, I just, as you were sharing, was like, my gosh, that's all, that has been a thing that I have witnessed. I remember one woman who hired me and she's like, I've never, she had just come out of corporate, which generally I worked with, work with coaches and consultants and they've been in business for a long time and their season, but she came right out of corporate and she's like, I'm going to do it. And so when, when I shared with her, she had no idea what my price point was and she was blown away, but she got it. She said,

I really, I'm so glad I trusted you because we got her to the other, other end of it. And she got the vibrational match thing because then now she's high ticket, right? So anyway.

Amanda Kaufman (23:39)

Yeah.

And you know, this is actually a debate that I've really thought about because a lot of coaches use that, and I'm not saying you, but I'm saying a lot of coaches are like, well, you know, if you don't invest in yourself, then how are you going to expect other people to invest in you? Which I think is largely true and also, I think there's also other pathways to access that wealth as well. I do think that if you're a doctor, it's a good idea to go to the doctor.

If you're a dentist, it's a good idea to have a dentist yourself. Like that does make a lot of sense. But if you're, if you're, just want to offer this for anybody who's just like, ah, it feels like I need to overextend myself or I need to spend money I don't have, or I need to like do all this kind of thing. It's like, no, that's not necessarily it. Cause for example, when I was in corporate America, I was involved in selling deals that were like $10 million. I never bought anything for $10 million ever.

but I was selling things for $10 million, right? So how do you get into a frequency to be able to do that? Well, part of it is I was part of a larger corporate entity. So I knew that I had the backing of that. And so then my identity was like, yeah, this is just it. This is just how it is. And this is normalized, right? So there's other ways that you can pull it in as well. Hiring a coach is very straightforward way. But if you're looking for other ways or if you're...

Dr. Kelly Schuh (24:35)

Yeah. Yeah.

Amanda Kaufman (25:01)

you know, add a stage right now, or maybe you've already invested in a lot of coaches and you're in a season where you need to like correct for that a little bit, don't despair, you know, like your value and your status is not necessarily in your wallet. It's in your identity and how you're showing up with it. I love that. Okay, cool. So Dr. Kelly Shue, how can people follow you and find out more?

Dr. Kelly Schuh (25:16)

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I think the easiest place to follow me is on LinkedIn. We launched a LinkedIn newsletter that's called the 10x collective or that or that we just launched it. Let's see the Gen X 10x collective. And it's newer. It's newer. you can find me at Dr. Kelly shoe and that's spelled S C H U H. I know that we'll put the links in the, in the show notes. And if you want to DM me in LinkedIn, I'll show you, I'll share with you the link to.

Amanda Kaufman (25:37)

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Dr. Kelly Schuh (25:54)

get a free human design chart because I feel like, and it's free, free, free, free. We're just talking about like high ticket versus free. There's great value in knowing your design because if you are trying to follow somebody else's strategy that's out of alignment and then you feel like you're not winning in life and some women will say, gosh, I just, I feel powerless. Like it's not working. There must be something wrong with me. There's nothing wrong with you. There is nothing wrong with you. You just,

there's often strategies that are misaligned. So my point being, you can DM me on LinkedIn at Dr. Kelly Shue, and let's get you your human design chart and just DM me chart, and I'll know that you heard through this podcast, and we'll get you free charts so that you can start aligning with your most prosperous design.

Amanda Kaufman (26:39)

Yeah, I love that. I'm a big fan of assessments and getting to know ourselves a whole lot better. So I have a lot of colleagues that absolutely swear by the Human Design Chart. I think that's super cool that you have an option for free. So I'm going to encourage people to go check that out if you're at all interested. And thank you so much for joining us today, Dr. Kelly. I really appreciated your conversation.

Dr. Kelly Schuh (27:00)

Thank you so much for having me. It was fun. And you know, when it's fun, it's in flow. I think, Amanda, I think this will have impact. And we just never know, but it will have impact.

Amanda Kaufman (27:03)

Yum.

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